Light at the end???

[Falling]

Ok....my trials for the HSC are in less than 2 weeks....and then the BIG ones not too long after that! Im highly doubting right about now that i will survive this period in my life and was just wondering how you guys have done it....or are getting through this crap time! Any tims would be muchly appreciated!
Cheers,
Em

[Chrissie]

My trials start tomorrow! English first and I don't even have related texts GAHHhhhhh :mad: I don't even know what i'm goign to do after school because ughh.. my UAI will be nothing! blah.

[Falling]

Shit dude tomorrow??....good luck!!! Our assessments made sure we did have a related text...maybe i can help.....what level of english are u doing?......im in advanced currently studying 'telling the truth'..very exciting! COUGH

[Chrissie]

thanks hehe! good luck to you too when yours come up :) i'm doing standard english. we did assessments too, which involevd related texts.. but mine were wrong :rolleyes: hah! oh well, i'll try studying tonight :)

[:: katie b ::]

i did HSC last year. and it sucks balls. but i feel the need to pass on the love...

(i) u will get through it. there is an end.
(ii) trials are harder but prepare u so well for the final exams
(iii) if they dont seem hard to u, ure school is shit.
(iv) if u dont have notes or at least some sorta study prep for trials, get ur ass off this and write some.
(v) remember, there are like 23094872934712398457145 ppl going through exactly what u are and feel the same way.
(vi) avoid contact with the losers at ure school PRIOR to walking to exams, they will only make u feel worse by pretending they haven't studied.
(vii) u know a lot more than u think u know. and u will u never feel 100% prepared for an exam...
(viii) dont stress
(ix) HAVE A SOCIAL LIFE !!!

p.s. u can never predict ure UAI - it can go either way.

cheers kids.

[Hinny]

I did it in 2001.

A few points:

1. The HSC is a joke. No one gives a flying monkey's dodgy hat about it, as long as you pass. And passing isn't all that hard.
2. The UAI is an even bigger joke. No one at uni, and I mean no one, cares what score you got. If you wanna do some law thing that requires a ridiculous score, well, you can do that as a postgrad thing anyway. Lots of people tranfer to the so called tougher courses through effort in arts and sciences, or through UAC-accredited TAFE courses.
3. While on the topic of uni, never under any circumstances wear your year 12 jersey to uni. Unless you're making a visit while you're actually in year 12. That's ok since uni students will take pity on high school people.
4. Sleep well. Relax. There's more important things in life than this mad rush of tests forced onto young people.
5. Spend your weekends, or at least one day, off in your little world and not think about school. Sport. Bushwalk. Beach walk. Anything. Get your mind off it.

[lozzy]

ok....well....i am a genius, so unless you are a genius too i won't be much help. i didn't study until a couple of days before each test and made up my extra sources for english in the exam (in the smh on the *insert date here* there was an article on *insert relevant newspaper title here* rar rar). feel free to do the same but. i went really well ;)

oh....and what hinny said.

[kerrysan]

shutup lozzy with ure advanced physics extra spectacular 4 kinds of maths, 14 units and 9999999999.99% average.

[lozzy]

shutup lozzy with ure advanced physics extra spectacular 4 kinds of maths, 14 units and 9999999999.99% average.
:D

[Hinny]

ok....well....i am a genius, so unless you are a genius too i won't be much help.
A little dose of absurdist humour also helps to relieve stress.

[lozzy]

A little dose of absurdist humour also helps to relieve stress.
well that was the plan ;)

[Falling]

Lol...this is helping guys:) Just having a break from economics study!!! But why cant i wear my jersey to uni?........i guess its like wearing ur year 10 shirt in year 11 or 12......hmmmmmm

[swede]

what hinny said is cool, hsc is over-rated, stress less :)

[kerrysan]

or your year 7 top on the weekend... bloody taperoo

[Hinny]

But why cant i wear my jersey to uni?
It's like wearing a shirt and tie to a metal gig. Or wearing a shirt with an anti-globalisation slogan to Maccas. You just don't do it.

[Cactus]

I got through it coz I really didn't take it seriously.

Wasn't very career minded at all.. so I just did what I had to do to get through..

[Tinkers]

heaps of people at my uni wear yr.12 jerseys, including me when its cold. i dont think anyone gives a crap what you wear which is one of the joys of uni. like wearing ugg boots to exams.

[jimmy]

what hinny said, and also dont worry too much if ya go super shit in ur trials. I got 30% in one test and ended up with like 95 in that subject at the end. The stoogey teachers generally make the trials really hard to "inspire" or more correctly "scare" u into working harder.

and remember the hsc is nothing really, everyone builds it up to be so important but it aint really..

Just chill out, she'll be right bro!

[Falling]

Just chill out, she'll be right bro![/QUOTE]

Lol...cheers. The issue is though that i need to get at least 78 to go to uni to get out of this shit hole....i think i can get that though!!!

[jimmy]

i know i can get that though!!!
its all good then... :p

[Hinny]

If I recall correctly, in my economics paper, I went into this diatribe about how the education system puts undue value on the econommic aspect of life and glosses over the social, putting the dollar sign ahead of personal welfare. It had very little to do with what the question was asking.

I got a band 5 mark.

[Falling]

its all good then... :p
I just have to convince myself of it in the mean time!!!

[jimmy]

econommic aspect of life and glosses over the social, putting the dollar sign ahead of personal welfare.
isnt that exactly what current economic theory is (well thats the effect of it at least, whether they admit it or not). i.e. dont worry that people are getting stooged big time, as long as the economy is "growing" (even if that growth is only enjoyed by the top 1% of the population)

sorry wheneva i see the word "economy" i get all excited...lol... :p

[Hinny]

isnt that exactly what current economic theory is (well thats the effect of it at least, whether they admit it or not). i.e. dont worry that people are getting stooged big time, as long as the economy is "growing" (even if that growth is only enjoyed by the top 1% of the population)

sorry wheneva i see the word "economy" i get all excited...lol... :p
Depending on whichever stance you're approaching the theory from, yes.

[Chrissie]

:eek:

[Hinny]

:eek:
Your English trials, right? No texts? Use songs.

[lozzy]

Your English trials, right? No texts? Use songs.
or make up newspaper articles.

[swede]

english blows

[maiizhigh]

english blows
*nods*
i agree.

[bek]

Here is Bek's advice.... (and i'm almost a teacher so i would know)
*Learn quotes and as soon as your allowed to write in the exam write them all down, same with formula's if your doing advanced maths
*In reading time make a thumb nail print in the correct multiple choice answer then you just have to quickly go back and not waste time
*Your trials are much harder then the actual exams but are great prep. dont try and work out your uai...there's no way to know!
*allocate time for each section and be strick with it, especially in english. Dont go over the time for each section or you may not even get to start the last paper.
*dont talk to people before exams about what they studied...it'll just stress you out and you cant change it at that time
*READ THE QUESTIONS!!!
*Study- time management...make a study timetable that is not unrealistic...make it something you can stick to!!! make sure you schedule days off!!!
*UAC- put your application in soon before you have other things to worry about and remember you can change it as many times as you like...just as long as you registar!!
*umm thats it!! good luck!!

[swede]

talk about someone who is organised...

[Fredina]

Stucy, but give urself a break. Have a Social life and don't stress. In year 11 I was really worried about HSC, then a family member died at the start of exams so I didn't have to do them. It's times like that when you realise they aren't the end of the world.

Good luck and remmeber to have fun!

[thatgirlmichelle]

One thing I learned was don't get freaked out by something. If you read a question and it doesn't make sense, don't panic. Leave it, do another one, come back to it. I found that once I'd actually found a question that I knew I could easily answer and completed it, it gave me enough confidence to go back to the ones I'd missed. Good luck!

[Chrissie]

ohh great advices! :) yay one exam down 5 to go :D

thanks Hinny for the song suggestion too.

[Tinkers]

hey, i did well in the HSC so i can tell you what i did and what i would have done better...even though i think some of these might have been said before.

1. do plenty of practice tests to test your knowledge and check what you need to spend the most time on.

2. Make study fun- listen to music while you’re studying, give yourself rewards if you do well in practice tests.

3. During exams you should always go back and check your answers to minimise silly mistakes. especially maths exams.

4. Do get enough sleep the night before.

5. remember that everyone procrastinates when they should be studying- so if youre feeling guilty that you havent done enough and you start stressing, just chill out. relax and try to focus on what you need to do, worrying too much is counter-productive.

6. Prepare your english exams really well, unless you’re supergood at english and can write well as well as think on the spot.You can usually guess what the general questions are going to be about just by knowing what the particular point of the module is, so you should know exactly which quotes you’re going to use and what you’re going to say about them.
E.g. you know in telling the truth that they’re going to ask you a question about the way in which truth is represented/misrepresented so make sure you already know a few examples from your texts and are able to quote them easily.
also in english, make sure you think a lot about exactly what the question is asking during reading time, as its easy to miss the point and go off on a tangent during your essay unless you underline the key words of the question and you know what they actually want you to do.

Good luck guys! i agree with Hinny that the HSC isnt the be all and end all if you dont do well, but you should still concentrate and put in your best effort now, cos you might regret slacking off later.

[Falling]

Here is Bek's advice.... (and i'm almost a teacher so i would know)
*Learn quotes and as soon as your allowed to write in the exam write them all down, same with formula's if your doing advanced maths
*In reading time make a thumb nail print in the correct multiple choice answer then you just have to quickly go back and not waste time
*Your trials are much harder then the actual exams but are great prep. dont try and work out your uai...there's no way to know!
*allocate time for each section and be strick with it, especially in english. Dont go over the time for each section or you may not even get to start the last paper.
*dont talk to people before exams about what they studied...it'll just stress you out and you cant change it at that time
*READ THE QUESTIONS!!!
*Study- time management...make a study timetable that is not unrealistic...make it something you can stick to!!! make sure you schedule days off!!!
*UAC- put your application in soon before you have other things to worry about and remember you can change it as many times as you like...just as long as you registar!!
*umm thats it!! good luck!!
Wow.....yeah good things there......i do most of them already. Its just the fact that they are exams and exams make me stress and feel extremly sick! I'm on these tablet things that stop the over-production of acid in my stomach to stop me from feeling like that....but hey they dnt really do that! I'm ok once i get in there........its just walking in and i usually start to freak in the reading time....even if i do know that answers! Go figure! lol...
Thanks again :o

[lozzy]

argh. all this talk of study is making me feel guilty.

[:: katie b ::]

hahaah too right foo. oooooooooooooops.

[Hinny]

argh. all this talk of study is making me feel guilty.
I put all my year 12 energy into making the point that the whole exercise of HSC is stupid. Study? What?

Not that this will help any current students in any way, but here I am, someone who treated the HSC with the strongest contempt. What happened afterwards? I've got a greater sense of who I am, what I want out of life, and greater satisfaction than all of my peers, including those who got the 99.somethings. Regrets? Not my thing.

[Falling]

I wish i could act like that.....i have no idea who i am.....would like to.....but too much other crap in my head that needs to stay in there for a few more months!

[:: katie b ::]

thats it mate. just hang in there. :)

[Fredina]

Just thought of another thing...take in a dictionary if ur allowed. we were allowed to take them to all exams and even if u don't think they are useful you might get freaked by a word u don't completely understand. they are also useful for definitions and can help start a good introduction to essays.

[bek]

oh i just thought of something else....crucial!!!
Be familiar with and know your Syllabus's or syllabii (i learnt today!!). These are what they base exam questions on...chances are they will just take a phrase from the syllabus and make it a question!

[lozzy]

oh i just thought of something else....crucial!!!
Be familiar with and know your Syllabus's or syllabii (i learnt today!!). These are what they base exam questions on...chances are they will just take a phrase from the syllabus and make it a question!
for subjects like chemistry, PE, and the like they usually take a question straight from the syllabus points.... go through and answer all the points so you're prepared.

if you are smart like myself.... split up all the syllabus dot points between your classmates.... each get answers to your allocated points.... photocopy ;)

[Falling]

Yep.....already do that......our teachers go straight off the points......its their bible and ours as well!!!

[bek]

Yep.....already do that......our teachers go straight off the points......its their bible and ours as well!!!

Then you got nothing to worry about!! good luck dude...hope the advice has calmed your nerves a bit!

[:: katie b ::]

the HSC is a bloody mother f**king a**hole.

[lozzy]

the HSC is a bloody mother f**king a**hole.
lmfao.

[Falling]

Ok........i think im ofically losing it......or ive totally lost it! Ive got myself into this state of mind where i can hardly do any work.........im freaking heaps bad! Exams start of thursday.....:(

[Miss Fishy]

Ok........i think im ofically losing it......or ive totally lost it! Ive got myself into this state of mind where i can hardly do any work.........im freaking heaps bad! Exams start of thursday.....:(

Seriously relax!!!

Dont cram- revise but dont cram! Especially not RIGHT before you go into the exam. And i suggest that before the exam, dont sit oir talk to anyone else who is freaking out, and especially not people who try and 'test' other people before. The last thing ytou need before the exam is someone mentioning something you dont feel you know and dropping any confidence you have. Thats the other thing- Stay confident; you will pass.

And for now? If you cant work, take a breather, go for a walk, listen to some music and take some time out. thus you will return to your study more productive than you were when you were freaking out.

You will be fine.

[bek]

Ok........i think im ofically losing it......or ive totally lost it! Ive got myself into this state of mind where i can hardly do any work.........im freaking heaps bad! Exams start of thursday.....:(

its easy to say this dude but relax!!! remember the trials are just a practice!! not the real thiing. Thursday they start right?? well you still have time!!!! you'll be surprised by how much you know! do some practice questions and in the exam...read the questions...and be strick with time!!! good luck!! i understand how you feel!!

[what]

pppfffffffffffft.
for each exam i only studied like the day before it.
i am now a university student.
i got good too.

[what]

Ok........i think im ofically losing it......or ive totally lost it! Ive got myself into this state of mind where i can hardly do any work.........im freaking heaps bad! Exams start of thursday.....:(

oh yeah. i had that too. get out of the house. or u could take some drugs. i wont go into that though. :eek:

[Hinny]

Ok........i think im ofically losing it......or ive totally lost it! Ive got myself into this state of mind where i can hardly do any work.........im freaking heaps bad! Exams start of thursday.....:(
Hinny's advice: talk to your school counsellor ASAP. That's what they're there for.

[:: katie b ::]

pfft. no. dont do that. its natural mate. everyone goes through that. just go and have a beer.

[maiizhigh]

i wish people would stop counting down the days till exams. i dont need to be reminded of how soon they are. *sigh*

[Hinny]

i dont need to be reminded of how soon they are. *sigh*
5 sleeps or something like that.

[maiizhigh]

5 sleeps or something like that.

haha. thanks for that hinny.
though i believe you're getting it mixed up with cirrols 18th.
my exams are actually in 81 days.
see? its way too early to start counting.

[Falling]

Thanks for this guys.....mean a lot.........however....pannic stations are still GO GO GO.

[Falling]

pfft. no. dont do that. its natural mate. everyone goes through that. just go and have a beer.
Arrrrgh...i wish i could....but im on antibiotics cause im sick:( :( :(

[Hinny]

Katie's a real agony aunt. Except she dishes it out, rather than solves things.

[:: katie b ::]

the only thing im trying to solve now, is what the hell u just said....?

[Chrissie]

Hinny's advice: talk to your school counsellor ASAP. That's what they're there for.

school counsellors suck.

[Falling]

Yeah i dont plan on seeing her.......hmmmmm a bit strange that one! Ive got a plan....that helps me relax....it involves lots of STUDY all day today then i should b ok....i hope:)
Last exams i was sick...and its happened again...so i think ive just got to take it easy some how:) I mean, ive got a fair few days left to fix up my mistakes and stuff.........so sigh.......at least if i no im prepared i wont b as stressed. Thanks again guys!

[row]

the only advice I have for anyone doing sixth form is study your butt off for the trials and then you'll be laughing when it comes to the real exams.

[lozzy]

pppfffffffffffft.
for each exam i only studied like the day before it.
i am now a university student.
i got good too.
same. stress less mate and you will be better for it. go outside and get some fresh air.

[Falling]

the only advice I have for anyone doing sixth form is study your butt off for the trials and then you'll be laughing when it comes to the real exams.
6th form being year 12 yeah?.....lol thats what my mum and dad call it!!! lol....sorry

[bek]

hey year 12 people...just wondering how the trials are going? are they finished?? how'd you go?

[Chrissie]

hey year 12 people...just wondering how the trials are going? are they finished?? how'd you go?

My trials are finished :D Haven't gotten the exams back, but i'm sure I did shit.

[lozzy]

My trials are finished :D Haven't gotten the exams back, but i'm sure I did shit.
so optimistic!! i love it :p

[what]

you gotta be negative. then if you do get bad, you wont be surprised. and if you get good it is awesome.

[bek]

you gotta be negative. then if you do get bad, you wont be surprised. and if you get good it is awesome.

couldnt have said it better!

[row]

nice philosophy..... if you dont expect anything you'll never be dissapointed.

same reverse psychology goes with the trials vs. actualy hsc exams. Make trials bloody hard then hsc exams do not seem as bad....... Thats if you go to a good school!

[Bocks]

you gotta be negative. then if you do get bad, you wont be surprised. and if you get good it is awesome.
we discussed this the othernight in all our stupidness haha

[Hinny]

nice philosophy..... if you dont expect anything you'll never be dissapointed.
If everyone followed this philosophy, the pharmaceutical companies that make anti-depressants would see their profits and stock prices rise through the roof.

[swede]

id love to swap with anyone who is doing the hsc

[Chrissie]

Feel free to, swede :D

[Chrissie]

School pisses me off. I'm just not going to go for awhile.

[Falling]

Ok! Trials are over as of today. Im feeling reasonabl confidnet with all of them esp english, however maths is of a slight concern........blagh still time to improve!!!
PISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!
Cheers

[swede]

fuckin awesome! chrissie - ur on.

so now just to let u know... ive got a lot to do on my thesis... so be sure to do a good job ay ;)

and falling - ull be right

[Falling]

Lol, thanks swede....but im not holding my breath....sigh! At last i can sleep....

[row]

swede- what are you doing your thesis on?

[:: katie b ::]

rat poo.

[row]

right mate

[Jackstar]

The Queensland year 12's have got there QCS, which is basically the HSC, just a Queensland version this coming tuesday and wednesday! along with many assignments and exams in the next 2 weeks! ARGH stress. never felt so tired in my whole life time.
well thats my complaining for the night. hehe
Cheers
Jacqui

[Chrissie]

fuckin awesome! chrissie - ur on.

so now just to let u know... ive got a lot to do on my thesis... so be sure to do a good job ay ;)

mwahaha that wasn't part of the deal :p

The Queensland year 12's have got there QCS, which is basically the HSC, just a Queensland version this coming tuesday and wednesday! along with many assignments and exams in the next 2 weeks! ARGH stress. never felt so tired in my whole life time.

Good luck, you'll be fine :)

[maiizhigh]

someone sent me an ENTER score calculator...you put in what you think you're going to get for each subject and it gives you an approx `TER score. its tempting me, half of me really just doesn't want to know...the other half tells me i might as well get an idea.
....should i? :confused:

[swede]

chrissie - u said u wanted to swap!!!!! everything is a part of the deal lmao

row - the effects of ambient temperature on drug reward

[Hinny]

someone sent me an ENTER score calculator...you put in what you think you're going to get for each subject and it gives you an approx `TER score. its tempting me, half of me really just doesn't want to know...the other half tells me i might as well get an idea.
....should i? :confused:
These scores... they're really not that big a deal.

[row]

your doing psychology swede??

[row]

as if they're not a big deal hinny?

[Hinny]

as if they're not a big deal hinny?
No, I don't think they're a big deal at all. If you want something bad enough, scores or no scores, you'll fight for it till you get it. If all you're going for is just a big score, then you may come to this point where, yes, you do have a good score, but you just have no idea what you want out of life, so you enrol yourself in a uni degree only to drop out since you don't have any idea what you want.

Many successful public figures have "made it" without going through the uni process. And that's only the public figures.

[lozzy]

i totally agree with hinny. quite a lot of my fellow students who got high marks in the hsc have all changed their degree or gone overseas travelling. on the other hand, quite a lot of those that didn't get that high a mark but knew exactly what they wanted to do ended up getting into what they wanted whether it was via tafe or work or what ever. seriously, unless you want to be a doctor or something, the mark isn't that important. and even if you want to be a doctor there are still other ways to get into that too.

[:: katie b ::]

high marks are just a fast track. they are not important.

[what]

someone sent me an ENTER score calculator...you put in what you think you're going to get for each subject and it gives you an approx `TER score. its tempting me, half of me really just doesn't want to know...the other half tells me i might as well get an idea.
....should i? :confused:
do it but it won't be right... mine said i would be getting 82 and i got 90. year 12 is bullshit anyway. uni sucks too.

[Hinny]

do it but it won't be right... mine said i would be getting 82 and i got 90. year 12 is bullshit anyway. uni sucks too.
I http://xsorbit27.com/images/star-heart.gif uni

[Chrissie]

What if you get a bad mark, and don't know what to do either?

[lozzy]

What if you get a bad mark, and don't know what to do either?
try and narrow down/eliminate things you don't want to do, then travel, take time off and think about it.

[Chrissie]

There's nothing much I want to do. I don't know! So confused and plus, there's the whole parents thing too :mad:

I just want to do something with music. Except for the fact that I'm crappy at it and the courses I looked at involve having to do 2 Unit Music or somethin.

Anyone know what courses there are that involve anything to do with music, like backstage stuff .. I dunno.. without needing much knowledge at first? :confused:

[what]

some unis offer music units that don't require theory, as part of an arts degree.

[swede]

your doing psychology swede??

sure am...

what is it ur doin?

[:: katie b ::]

did i mention i was hot?

[what]

no, you dont need to.

[Tinkers]

yo marlz, i reckon you might as well use the ENTER calculator. obviously it wont be dead accurate, but it’ll give you a fair indication of how you’re going. i mean, dont take it as gospel, but its worth having a look. and as if you dont want to know! i know you care heaps about what you’re gonna get. you might as well see whether the studying you’re doing now is at a good level, or if you need to step it up or something.
Last year, all i did was worry about marks and i was convinced i’d probably struggle to get 90. and then the UAI scaling thing said id get 97 which was a big confidence booster and i ended up getting 98 in the final thing.

hinny i really dont agree with you when you say ‘scores arent a big deal’. i mean, its true that there ARE other ways of getting into stuff other than just getting highs marks. But they are usually a major hassle, and involve doing other degrees for a year that you’re not interested in, or maintaining a credit or distinction avg. so why not just study now?

take my brother for example. hes a smart dude. but he bombed out in the HSC cos he just assumed he’d do well and didnt really try. Then he had to spend a year at Macquarie Uni studying his ass off there before he could get into the course he wanted to. it would have been way easier for him if he just put effort into yr.12.

True, its not the end of the world if you don’t do brilliantly in the HSC, because backdoors do exist. but you can’t say that ‘marks dont count’ since they do govern how hard its going to be to get into your uni course.

ps- uni exams are harder than yr.12 exams.

[swede]

tinkers - although they do govern the uni course u can get directly into, i think there is unfair amount of stress and emphasis put on people going through yr 12, making it out that it is the be all and end all.

[Falling]

Tinkers - even though uni exams may be harder than the HSC exams.....at uni ur actaully studying what ur interested in......therefore ur more likely do actaully study and understand the content of the course!!!!!! I was forced to do subjects that i didnt want to do.....cause at our school the lines didnt work out in my favour!!! However, i no marks are so very important......i just hope that mine are all ok.......all i want to do is leave this shit hole and go to uni.........argh its just so frustrating!!!!

[lozzy]

tinkers - i don't think hinny was advising not to study, but rather letting people know if you don't do as well as you had hoped, that it's not the end of the world :)

[jimmy]

im with hinny here.. and, as loz said, if you dont know what to do dont just pick anything. i know of a guy who got a uai of 80's choose something he didnt really want to do, went bad and as a result struggled to change courses. most important thing, choose something u really wanna do, and if thats not uni then dont go to uni, i dont see why the big importance is placed on uni these days, it aint everyones cup a tea.

[Chrissie]

some unis offer music units that don't require theory, as part of an arts degree.

thanks for that.

[what]

thanks for that.
no worries... yeh um whatever uni u get into, they will have a night where u go and see what units are available. if ur uni even HAS a music department ahah go up to them and ask them what units are available for people who don't do music theory etc.

[Hinny]

TAFEs and some private colleges offer courses on music production and such. You don't need to go to uni. I can never emphasise this enough.

PEOPLE! YOU DON'T NEED TO GO TO UNI.

[Tinkers]

i love uni cos its such a random pissup. but yeah, it is true that no one actually needs to go to uni. Missy didnt go and she's doing quite well for herself.

yeah lozzy, i know he didnt say you shouldnt study, but i just strongly believe that for now, we should be encouraging the dudes doing the HSC to study like there's no tomorrow. Talking about how unimportant marks are isnt helpful right now. But it is kinda true, and does have a time and a place once results come out and maybe they're not as high as expected.

i was so fucked for my last uni exams, seeing as i had no clue what was going on in them during semester. but the sheer horror at the thought of having to repeat those units made me study my ass off in stuvac and i eventually ended up passing everything. i reckon having something scary to motive you into study is a good way to stay focussed. Works for me anyway.
but i do agree with you Falling that it sucks in school having to do subjects that you're not interested in such as English, which even english teachers hate with a passion...

[Chrissie]

no worries... yeh um whatever uni u get into, they will have a night where u go and see what units are available. if ur uni even HAS a music department ahah go up to them and ask them what units are available for people who don't do music theory etc.
Great! You're lots of help. I hope there's a music department, even though i'll probably change my mind by then. I'll definitely check it out though. Thanks again!

TAFEs and some private colleges offer courses on music production and such. You don't need to go to uni. I can never emphasise this enough.

PEOPLE! YOU DON'T NEED TO GO TO UNI.
People are all like TAFE doesn't teach you anything and all that :confused: Music production course sounds good though. For TAFE, you need a certain amount of knowledge to do courses like that too, don't you? or can you not know anything about it at all =\

I'm a lostie when it comes to hsc, uni, tafe and all that stuff, sorry! :o

[maiizhigh]

I'm a lostie when it comes to hsc, uni, tafe and all that stuff, sorry! :o
you should really check out all the uni and tafe open days that are happening at the moment (not that i can talk, i keep deciding not to go at the last minute...but being sick doesnt help) and talk to people there, and people in jobs you think you might want. you can get alot of info from them, ask questions about the different faculties. use up all the resources you can. talk to you careers counseller, find out what courses you can do for the subjects that you're doing. get a copy of the ummm...is it UTAC in nsw? i know its VTAC in victoria and QTAC in queensland, but i forget what it is in nsw, get a copy of the UTAC guide and/or the job guide. look into all the jobs you could be interested in, in the job guide and it tells you what levels of qualification you need and it also gives you contact details for some of these things. look into the courses you are interested in in the UTAC guide...it tells you the subjects you need to be doing, any extra requirements for application.

i'm going through the same thing, completely confused, but i found that all these things help. the motivational speakers they give at school and that 'discover your careerpath' crap was pretty useless to me.

i figure once you get a bit of direction it helps with the study, because at least you have something to aim for. good luck :)

[Chrissie]

you should really check out all the uni and tafe open days that are happening at the moment (not that i can talk, i keep deciding not to go at the last minute...but being sick doesnt help) and talk to people there, and people in jobs you think you might want. you can get alot of info from them, ask questions about the different faculties. use up all the resources you can. talk to you careers counseller, find out what courses you can do for the subjects that you're doing. get a copy of the ummm...is it UTAC in nsw? i know its VTAC in victoria and QTAC in queensland, but i forget what it is in nsw, get a copy of the UTAC guide and/or the job guide. look into all the jobs you could be interested in, in the job guide and it tells you what levels of qualification you need and it also gives you contact details for some of these things. look into the courses you are interested in in the UTAC guide...it tells you the subjects you need to be doing, any extra requirements for application.

i'm going through the same thing, completely confused, but i found that all these things help. the motivational speakers they give at school and that 'discover your careerpath' crap was pretty useless to me.

i figure once you get a bit of direction it helps with the study, because at least you have something to aim for. good luck :)

hey, thanks for that! It's the UAC guide here and yep, I have that. I guess i'll look at it again. Argggh, so confusing. I didn't take year 11 or 12 seriously, so now i'm stressing - bad mistake! Everyone's talking about what they want to do and what uni they want to go to and.. ugh! I don't know what i'm interested in anymore.
The careers adviser at my school is crap. She doesn't help with anything. blah. I'll try and go to some open days though and talk to the diff people and hopefully it'll help :) :confused:

Hmm. I care what my UAI will be, but in some ways I really don't.

($*^*(#&@^($*&^

[Tinkers]

a lecturer told us the other day said the difference between TAFE and uni is that uni gives you more of a broad learning experience so you can go into a profession.
whereas TAFE is just training so you can do a particular job.
like, my brother did a communications course at uni so he could be qualified for pretty much anything in the field of media/journalism.
but my sister’s doing a real estate course at TAFE which is good for helping her get a job as a real estate agent, but not for much else.
(sorry for talking about my sibling’s career paths so much, i know its not exciting)

Im pretty sure you dont need to qualify for anything to get into TAFE, but you should probably verify that.

also, to help you decide what you want to do, maybe you could make a list of stuff you enjoy or dont like at school to narrow down your list of options. do you like anything other than music?
also, maybe have a look in the careers section of the paper. they might have something there that interests you which could help you to decide.

[lozzy]

i am so glad i'm a genius.

[maiizhigh]

no need to rub it in loz :p

[Hinny]

i am so glad i'm a COMEDIC genius.
Typo fixed.

[Hinny]

The careers adviser is just there to help you make your decision, to guide you along a path if you've got something vague in mind already. It sounds like you don't really have an idea at all of what you wanna do once school is over.

So don't go into tertiary study. You don't have to do it as soon as you leave school. If you want, you can always enrol down the track when you've got a clearer idea of what you're interested in. Of course, judging by this government's attitude, they'll eventually get rid of HECS and bring in up front full fee places only, in which case you'll be screwed if you defer for a couple years, but that's another story.

In the meantime, work at a shitty job, and save up enough money for an overseas trip. Before a few of my uni mates started the course, one taught English in Sir Lanka, another in Japan. One helped run a summer camp in the US. One built schools in Mexico. Many only made up their minds to do this course during whatever crazy experiences they had.

[Falling]

Our careers advisor is a dick head! I doubt he knows what time of the day it is! He just agrees with everything u say.......idiot! I more or less figured out what i wanted to do with my life through my work experience in year 10......Environmental Scientist all the way, however, if i dont get the marks to do that.....there are other courses that i can do for me to be able to transfer into that course! Heres hoping i dont have to do that though! I want the quick way.....oh please o please o please get a high enough UAI!!! PLEEEEEEAAAASEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

[row]

swede - I'm doing a BSc majoring in Bio

tell me what you have learnt about depression.

[row]

hinny-- what are you studying?

[swede]

swede - I'm doing a BSc majoring in Bio

tell me what you have learnt about depression.


umm... a fair bit, have u any specific enquiries?

[row]

yup

how do you get out of it?

[swede]

depends on the issue i guess.

best thing would be to see someone. could be a range of things i guess... personal circumstance leading to spiral effect on negative mood... cases (very few) of pure chemical imbalances they believe, so drugs are beneficial. drugs are generally beneficial in alleviating the symptoms, but naturally wont get at the underlying issue.

try to understand what the underlying issue is, and then work at ways in which you can manage it.

[row]

rightio

[swede]

yeh, but there is no one set way in takin away depression from a person, it is highly dependant on circumstances and the individual, what works best for them and what not.

i wish i could be of more help..

[row]

dont beat yourself up... you're not qualified

[life is peachy without me]

yeah even if someone was on anti depresants it can take sometimes months for it to work properly

[row]

head of psychiatry at my uni says that anti-depressants are crap and that cbt is the way to solve the problems

[swede]

some say that cbt isnt that great though, they dont know whether it can always get right down to what the real problem is... some say its a symptom reliever but will have big relapse issues.

[life is peachy without me]

the highest know therapies that are known to work with most are alternative therapies.... has a higher success rate in NZ and Canada.... things like Gestalt and TA. Pretty sure it can work with depression

[row]

life is peachy- whats gestalt?

[life is peachy without me]

life is peachy- whats gestalt?

check this site out, i haven't looked at it totally but it has some pretty good stuff on it

http://www.sonoma.edu/users/d/daniels/gestalt.html

gestalt is quite fun....it looks at things like the drivers in your life, things that you pick up of your mum and dad, examies the whole different ego's that we have like if our responses are from adult,child or parent. fantastic stuff and facinating stuff. sorry to interupt on your convo :) i'm just doing my post grad in counselling and examing different therapies

[Chrissie]

also, to help you decide what you want to do, maybe you could make a list of stuff you enjoy or dont like at school to narrow down your list of options. do you like anything other than music?
also, maybe have a look in the careers section of the paper. they might have something there that interests you which could help you to decide.

I like travel/tourism, and law seems interesting.. but i'm not sure. Maybe a computing course.. except I want to do something more adventurou,s I think. I'm definitely not looking for anything to do with business--economics/finance. So confused.

In the meantime, work at a shitty job, and save up enough money for an overseas trip. Before a few of my uni mates started the course, one taught English in Sir Lanka, another in Japan. One helped run a summer camp in the US. One built schools in Mexico. Many only made up their minds to do this course during whatever crazy experiences they had.

Did all your mates do well in the HSC? get a good UAI and everything? but not know what they wanted to do? They are most probably all intellegent and could do whatever they wanted when they came back from their trip =\ I've been thinking about saving up to go on a trip overseas. I don't know though. I don't think by the time I came back, i'd still have any clue of what to do. Aaaaaahh.

[Falling]

I got some of my marks mack today.......and lets just say ive cried all arvo! Im not going to get into FKN UNI with those shit house assessments marks.....im so lost right now!!!

[Hinny]

hinny-- what are you studying?
I'm 9 weeks away from completing my B Social Work. I too used to think that anti-depressants were no good, but having counselled some clients with acute depression and suicidal tendencies, I fully recognise their importance. Yes, some of them do add to existing problems, and others do absolutely nothing, but they do serve a very importance purpose. What I do is more in the person-centred school rather than CBT, but that has everything to do with the kind of people I work(ed) with.

Chrissie, it depends on what your definition of a good UAI is. My mates had around 75-85. There's a few absolute ditzes around, so it's not like we're all brilliant minds. Can't be all like Hinny.

I spose my course is kind of different in that yes, there is a UAI entry mark, but having the heart to go through with it is so much more important. And that's what these trips are meant to do- get out of your comfort zone. See and experience things you haven't before, and take whatever inspiration from it.

You're not (and aren't expected to) making your life decision at this point. For a high school student who's more or less seen very little other than the inside of a school- it's just completely unreasonable. It's highly likely that if you do settle down on a particular area of study you will go on to do something completely irrelevant to what you did. And then change your path another 11 times over the years.

Go flow.

[Hinny]

I got some of my marks mack today.......and lets just say ive cried all arvo! Im not going to get into FKN UNI with those shit house assessments marks.....im so lost right now!!!
I'm not sure what you're situation is, but it does seem as though you're really eager to head to uni. You mentioned you've been forced to do subjects against your will. I don't know what your primary interest is, but the option is always there to accumulate a score through TAFE, where you're free to study what you want, that will go towards getting yourself an entry mark to uni.

Or, if you wish to do so, you can enrol in a "lesser" degree which requires a lower score than the one you really want, and perhaps transfer to the desired course after a year. The open days are really helpful.

[bek]

I got some of my marks mack today.......and lets just say ive cried all arvo! Im not going to get into FKN UNI with those shit house assessments marks.....im so lost right now!!!

Your school has probably freaked you all out and set exams much harder then the actual ones. Although your school assessment count for 50% of your grade, i'm sure in your other assignments you've managed to do well and that will bring your grade up.

Your UAI is important but its not the only way to get into uni...submit your preferences with UAC and then if you do worse then you think you can always change them as many times as you want. Also universities accept lower UAI's then they publish (its a competition to them...they want their uni to have the highest UAI's cos that means the demand is high!)

In my trials i failed my maths exam horribly and thought it was the end...then in the actual exam i got in the 80's for maths! i know it wont make you feel better but with each exam you'll get better and your techniques will improve!

Good luck! :)

[row]

hey falling

Seriously dont beat yourself up too much....ok? At least if anything you have been given a cold slap on the face and you will be better prepared for the real thing. Right?

Like hinny is saying, there ARE some real ditzes around. Its seriously not such a massive deal to get 90 or above. Its what you want to do.

I've done the gap year/travel thing and have almost finished my degree(2 out of 3 years) but now I am taking six months off to clarify where my degree is going. I got into my fisrt pref of uni and course. So I definately believe its just whats in you. Travel is good and plugging away at a crappy supermarket job is good too but its just a matter of justifying why you're doing it. Do you NEED to work at a crappy job just to figure out what you want.... sure, maybe.... its a very personal process.

[swede]

hey hinny - we keep gettin told that social workers dont like psychologists - can u back this up?

[Hinny]

hey hinny - we keep gettin told that social workers dont like psychologists - can u back this up?
Right now, the one person I hate the most is my supervisor from placement- a social worker. I was fine with the psychs I worked with.
One of my best mates is a psych student. I've met plenty of cool psych people.

I work on the basis that I like someone until they do something to really piss me off.

[swede]

ah yeh thats ok, cause we keep gettin told by social workers we know nothing of mental health... and we are like wtf? fools! lol

and not to mention hinny - u bow down to me... and my mastery in pool LMAO!

[Hinny]

and not to mention hinny - u bow down to me... and my mastery in pool LMAO!
Please. I bow down to no man. Women, sure. Men? Not me.

[swede]

hahaha u foo!

5 balls up, thats all i got to say bout that! lol!

[maiizhigh]

GAHHHH!!

i figure here is where i vent my annoyance at school.

[Falling]

Thanks guys....ur helping me a lot!!! Ive calmed down a tad since yesterday........ive got some of my ranks which make me feel a little better!
Im 5th for biology.....even though i seriously....and i mean seriously stuffed it up!!!
2nd in geography, 5th in sconomics.......and maths and english we havent got back as yet.....althought, i doubt they will be of any quality!!!
Thanks again guys :)

[swede]

what helps is a bit of scotch.

i love scotch, scotch scotch scotch

[row]

eh? are you like 50 years old?

[lozzy]

eh? are you like 50 years old?
how'd you guess?
he is.

[swede]

LOL - no

i was ripping anchorman off...

[Hinny]

Scotch is bloody marvellous.

[swede]

it is hinny

i think im gonna get very trashed on sat night

[row]

ok...i saw anchorman but it was crap.... :eek:

swede? why swede anyway? is your name really sven and you are from sweden?

hey loz- are you at uni in the gong?


I was reading some of the 'interview' threads and came across this really old one from 2004 about missy being gay..... is that over and done with in the press now? The thread was about missy pashing a lady after one of her gigs somewhere in aus...... erghh... whatever...

[swede]

lol i loved anchorman

swede - cause i was born there came here at a young age. being swedish was kinda a gimmick throughout high school n such and it has stuck. and not everyone is sven lmao.

my modern history teacher in high school used to call me sven, it was funny

[row]

geez... i was totally just taking the piss then..... how funny... you are actually swedish

:o

[swede]

lmfao! and yes... i actually am swedish LOL

[Chrissie]

And that's what these trips are meant to do- get out of your comfort zone. See and experience things you haven't before, and take whatever inspiration from it.

You're not (and aren't expected to) making your life decision at this point. For a high school student who's more or less seen very little other than the inside of a school- it's just completely unreasonable. It's highly likely that if you do settle down on a particular area of study you will go on to do something completely irrelevant to what you did. And then change your path another 11 times over the years.

Go flow.

Okay, thanks for that. I think going overseas and travel for a bit is the best idea for me at the moment, so far, since I doubt i'll have made my mind up by next year =\

Im 5th for biology.....even though i seriously....and i mean seriously stuffed it up!!!

5th is great. Stuffed up eh? Mwahahah, not as much as I did.

[lozzy]

hey loz- are you at uni in the gong?
yessum :)

and swede....omg you used to be called sven?!? like the cool crew sven!! sven is cool :cool:

[swede]

lmfao! loz - well it was my modern history teacher would call me sven LOL it was hilarious stuff

[row]

loz..are you originally from the gong? whats the uni like? is it massive?

[lozzy]

loz..are you originally from the gong? whats the uni like? is it massive?
born and bred.

the uni is pretty big. not as big as USYD and UNSW i don't think. great atmosphere though. why do you ask? you see all our high rankings eh? #1 in teaching etc. Go the Gong!

[swede]

the gong sucks lol

[what]

everything on that side of australia sucks. the west rules. we have mrs macs and peters icecreams and white vans and we drive faster in the rain.

[lozzy]

everything on that side of australia sucks. the west rules. we have mrs macs and peters icecreams and white vans and we drive faster in the rain.
jennifer you know the west sucks and you want to move here. stop trying to convince yourself otherwise.

[what]

jennifer you know the west sucks and you want to move here. stop trying to convince yourself otherwise.
ok old one.

[lozzy]

ok old one.
yes i am old. compared to you anyways ;)
widdle jennifer :)

[what]

yes i am old. compared to everyone.
omg WtF!!?@ lozzy finally admits her oldness.

[lozzy]

omg WtF!!?@ i'm in the wrong thread. *goes off to 'misquote the person above you' thread*
good girl. now back on topic. Wollongong is the best haha.

[what]

shut up lozzy. without wa you wouldn't have the waifs. and itdoesnt look THAT special in this
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/jennifek/Wollongong-800.jpg

[lozzy]

well that isn't wollongong idiot.

[what]

.

[bek]

loz..are you originally from the gong? whats the uni like? is it massive?

Go the Gong!!! the uni's big...good coffee places, cool duck ponds, good bands, fun times!! i dont wanna leave!

[swede]

everything on that side of australia sucks. the west rules. we have mrs macs and peters icecreams and white vans and we drive faster in the rain.

lol that girl scares me from visiting perth

[row]

you guys...tisk tisk...

hey loz, I didnt know it was no. 1 for teaching.... is that primary? UNSW is actually not really that big but having COFA down in paddo does make it seem like a big uni. USYD is the biggest I reckon. What are you studying anyway? chem or something? Don't know why I ask.... I always just thought of the gong as being a bit like newcastle.... another port and metal works city.....

[bek]

you guys...tisk tisk...

hey loz, I didnt know it was no. 1 for teaching.... is that primary? UNSW is actually not really that big but having COFA down in paddo does make it seem like a big uni. USYD is the biggest I reckon. What are you studying anyway? chem or something? Don't know why I ask.... I always just thought of the gong as being a bit like newcastle.... another port and metal works city.....

Hey row- i know your comment was for loz...but i'm actually studying primary teaching at w'gong uni...no its definitly not number one for its education faculty!! its # 1 for its teaching as in the way subjects are delivered in general (i think!)

[row]

ahuh

do they have colleges at the uni or dorms or something? Thats pretty mad that its no 1 for the actually quality of teaching (which I think is what you're trying to say??)....

[bek]

ha!! yeah thats what i'm trying to say...just not well!! yeah they have places to stay...International house, Weerona, Campus East...there's another one i think ?

[row]

I cant believe you guys have international house.... that college is at like every single uni (the name that is).

I seriously would never have picked the uni at the gong as having the best quality lecturers or whatever. How do they measure that anyway...? oh well.

swede- where are you at uni?

[Hinny]

I cant believe you guys have international house.... that college is at like every single uni (the name that is).

I seriously would never have picked the uni at the gong as having the best quality lecturers or whatever. How do they measure that anyway...? oh well.

swede- where are you at uni?
The measure is simple. Student surveys. Any way to measure quality is going to be flawed. This one's problem is the fact that students don't have anything to compare their experiences with, and the random likelihood that people will actually fill out the surveys.

[row]

yeah.... thanks mate?

[lozzy]

you guys...tisk tisk...

hey loz, I didnt know it was no. 1 for teaching.... is that primary? UNSW is actually not really that big but having COFA down in paddo does make it seem like a big uni. USYD is the biggest I reckon. What are you studying anyway? chem or something? Don't know why I ask.... I always just thought of the gong as being a bit like newcastle.... another port and metal works city.....
yeah overall teaching.

i'm doing a bachelor in exercise science and rehabilitation. i was then going to do a postgrad in physiotherapy but i've just decided against it, as there is going to be much more job opportunities in the area of exercise physiology, with the increase in chronic illness and disease. there's also going to be a graduate medical school opening at UOW in 2007 which i'm going to apply for. i'm scared about the GAMSAT though..

[Hinny]

The one thing that really sets usyd apart is the history and the alumni of the place. UniMelb, ANU and USyd are always going to be the most attractive trio because of the cultural history and the sheer academic reputation. This doesn't always translate to teaching, though.

If and when VSU kicks in, USyd is the one uni that's going to take an absolutely battering.

[da_lozmeister]

According to some international survey poll thing...ANU is the top uni in australia...but meh

[Hinny]

According to some international survey poll thing...ANU is the top uni in australia...but meh
I'm sure ANU is really great. Whatever its merits, there's one really big problem.

Attending ANU means living in Canberra.

[Fredina]

Dang, said it again Hinny, stop stealing my thoughts!

[:: katie b ::]

LOZ - GET OUTTA THERE AS FAST AS YOU CAN. DON'T STAY ANY LONGER. nah serious foo, thats hot!

n whoever said they liked the ducks and stuff on the lawns must have been at a party with whitney houston smashing some crAck.

[row]

ok katie b can you please speak english?

loz- i got the impression you were doing some crazy physics thing. Everyone goes down to the gong for that sports course. Did you try and get into sports stuff at Sydney Uni? Or med somewhere?

Hinny-- other uni's will slowly catch up (of course) , sounds like w'gong uni is taking a big step forward with a grad medical school.

[:: katie b ::]

my name is katie. i can speak english.

[row]

i shouldve known you prefer katie to katie b.... yep

[:: katie b ::]

haha what do u mean?

[row]

sorry.... dont worry

[maiizhigh]

why does SATAC close so early? whyyyy???
i need more time to figure out if i want to apply interstate.

[Tinkers]

hey, cant you just apply now change your preferences later, like even after you've got your UAI/TER?

[maiizhigh]

yea i can.
but things like med require interviews. i'm not going to adelaide just for an interview unless i'm serious about it. gahhh.

hey tinkers, you've hit one hundred posts!! :D *throws confetti*

[row]

what does satac stand for?

[maiizhigh]

what does satac stand for?
south australian tertiary admissions centre

[Hinny]

Hinny-- other uni's will slowly catch up (of course) , sounds like w'gong uni is taking a big step forward with a grad medical school.
I'm talking about cultural reputation, so Melb and Syd are always going to have this one thing against everyone else. It's the history. The alumni. The social movements that came from these two. Teaching wise I don't doubt some other unis may be superior in various areas.

[lozzy]

LOZ - GET OUTTA THERE AS FAST AS YOU CAN. DON'T STAY ANY LONGER. nah serious foo, thats hot!

n whoever said they liked the ducks and stuff on the lawns must have been at a party with whitney houston smashing some crAck.
LOL! medicine is hot huh? most people would tend to disagree... :p

and the duckpond is cool. me and some mates chucked one of our friends in the duckpond once. it was for his birthday haha. once he was in he went exploring for a bit. ahhhh fun times :)


loz- i got the impression you were doing some crazy physics thing. Everyone goes down to the gong for that sports course. Did you try and get into sports stuff at Sydney Uni? Or med somewhere?
why physics?
and no i didn't try to get into anything anywhere else, what i'm doing was my first choice. i could've done physio, i had the marks for it (wasn't too much different from ES), but opted to go for ex phys. i chose UOW over USYD to do Exercise Science, as the course is better, employers ask for UOW graduates first (i have heard this off a number of employers), and it's close to home. logical. now that i've done it though i've decided i would prefer medicine.
that's the problem i believe....most kids are not really sure what they want to do when they finish school and end up picking anything, then change their mind and get into something else, wasting time and money in the process. lucky for me what i want to do is in a similar field and the program is a graduate program anyways. ok i think i've yabbed on enough. the end.

[row]

this place is for yabbing! we all yab

thats cool. I know what you are saying with the whole time/money factor thing. The most annoying thing is that making up ones mind about what they want to do is that it takes time and money (i've just repeated you're point..hmm). I'm in the middle of my degree but am having a 6 month break from it to catch up on what it is I want to do when I get it. I guess I got a little freaked out when I realised I would be graduating very soon without a clear view of want I want to do........ pooo.... So now I'm going backpacking!

[jimmy]

another problem is how people see uai points as a currency that they have to spend. They think "i earnt the points, so i better use em" and they do something they arent really into, which doesnt last.

[row]

but then if you get the grades....why not go for the hard one?

[maiizhigh]

i agree with jimmy. i dont think its a good idea when people choose their uni course simply 'because they got the marks for it'. just becasuse they have enough marks to do it doesnt mean that it is something that they will enjoy. leave those places for people who actually want to do the course i say.

just because you can, doesnt mean you should.

[jimmy]

but then if you get the grades....why not go for the hard one?

only if the hard one is what u wanna do. cause theres no point doing something u dont wanna do just cause the uai was higher.

[lozzy]

only if the hard one is what u wanna do. cause theres no point doing something u dont wanna do just cause the uai was higher.
totally.

plus...the uai is only higher because that course is more popular, not because it's harder.

[JOLENE]

i agree with jimmy. i dont think its a good idea when people choose their uni course simply 'because they got the marks for it'. just becasuse they have enough marks to do it doesnt mean that it is something that they will enjoy. leave those places for people who actually want to do the course i say.

just because you can, doesnt mean you should.

hey i agree too! something we agree on LOL

my mother told me when i was 18 that if i went to uni and did anything involving computers (she especially wanted me to do computer programming) that she would pay for it, and pay for everything else including accommodation .. I hated computers .. i was bloody good at it though, always top in class, but i hated it .. just didn't interest me .. so i said NO went and did my own thing and moved out, and haven't seen another dollar from her since! But I'm all the more proud of where I am I guess.

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loz, yeah you're spot on but there will always be the "i couldve done med/I couldve done vet blah blah blah" line.

[Hinny]

loz, yeah you're spot on but there will always be the "i couldve done med/I couldve done vet blah blah blah" line.
Not if you've got a good enough idea of what you wanted to do in the first place.

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sometimes things are only clear in hindsight